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PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

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PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby TykerD3 » 27 Mar 2013, 12:50

Sony seem to be learning from this Gen's mistakes. Well done them

I'm Xbox all the way, but with all the rumors and maybe the lack of power i am getting more interested in the PS4. No solid info on the NextBox yet, so i am praying they deliver as don't want to swap to Sony ideally.
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby mij » 27 Mar 2013, 12:59

:D Cant wait :D
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby metallicorphan » 27 Mar 2013, 13:01

But he also suggested that problems of the past will be remedied with the new approach the PlayStation 4 is taking.


That's all i ask for

actually i hope that includes not having it as £425 at Launch,way too much
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby stato257 » 27 Mar 2013, 13:08

like this gen, i'll be buying both to accompany my pc. if the ps4 can get anywhere near the bf4 vid in terms of graphics then i'll be happy.
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby schubacca » 27 Mar 2013, 13:28

TykerD3 wrote:Sony seem to be learning from this Gen's mistakes. Well done them

I'm Xbox all the way, but with all the rumors and maybe the lack of power i am getting more interested in the PS4. No solid info on the NextBox yet, so i am praying they deliver as don't want to swap to Sony ideally.


Everything that I have read indicates that for all intents and purposes the 720 will be comparable to the PS4, which on paper is better than this generation 360 vs PS3, where the Sony consoles specs are much more superior than the former.
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby LiamT » 27 Mar 2013, 13:47

schubacca wrote:
TykerD3 wrote:Sony seem to be learning from this Gen's mistakes. Well done them

I'm Xbox all the way, but with all the rumors and maybe the lack of power i am getting more interested in the PS4. No solid info on the NextBox yet, so i am praying they deliver as don't want to swap to Sony ideally.


Everything that I have read indicates that for all intents and purposes the 720 will be comparable to the PS4, which on paper is better than this generation 360 vs PS3, where the Sony consoles specs are much more superior than the former.


hmm. from the leaks it seems the PS4 will be a fair bit more powerful. much faster RAM, leaner OS running at a lower level, and a better GPU.

the only reason the xbox looks better is that it was easier to code for and the PS3 just didnt have enough RAM. this shouldnt be the case now. devs will probably still code for the xbox then port over and stick up the detail levels, AA, AF, shadows, physics etc.
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby billysastard » 27 Mar 2013, 14:19

well at least programmers wont have an issue learning to program ps4 since its just a 2-3 year old x86 pc.
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby Barry316 » 27 Mar 2013, 14:24

billysastard wrote:well at least programmers wont have an issue learning to program ps4 since its just a 2-3 year old x86 pc.


Dunno, the 6 programmers left making Wii U games still seem to have issues and that's basically a 12 year old Casio calculator with an Etch-a-Sketch included.
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby schubacca » 27 Mar 2013, 14:44

LiamT wrote:
the only reason the xbox looks better is that it was easier to code for and the PS3 just didnt have enough RAM. this shouldnt be the case now. devs will probably still code for the xbox then port over and stick up the detail levels, AA, AF, shadows, physics etc.


I guess that all will be revealed this time next month :)
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby Unition » 27 Mar 2013, 14:47

stato257 wrote:like this gen, i'll be buying both to accompany my pc. if the ps4 can get anywhere near the bf4 vid in terms of graphics then i'll be happy.


I'm gonna say it, consoles dictate the development of games on the PC. Publishers need their games to work on as many platforms as possible, and developers become stagnated by the lowest common denominator, our current-gen systems.

With next-gen consoles there will be a new wave of creativity, and the console will surpass the PC. How? Well, just look at what our current-gen can do. Seriously, how far off is Crysis 3 on console compared to the PC? Sure, there is a clear difference, but it's not dramatic. If developers can get close to the PC with current-gen systems, they will surpass it with next-gen systems that are 16x more powerful. People underestimate the significance of a stable platform that can be optimized to the nth degree. So, for the first time, consoles will be leading the way on all fronts.
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby FishyGinger » 27 Mar 2013, 14:52

Barry316 wrote:
billysastard wrote:well at least programmers wont have an issue learning to program ps4 since its just a 2-3 year old x86 pc.


Dunno, the 6 programmers left making Wii U games still seem to have issues and that's basically a 12 year old Casio calculator with an Etch-a-Sketch included.


Wait until the Nintendo group hear about this injustices

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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby S-Smith » 27 Mar 2013, 14:55

Well nothing beats(on any this Gen-consoles) Killzone 2 & 3 & Uncharted 2 & 3 & a few other PS3 exclusives on Graphics so i am happy with the PS3:P Hopefully all this CR*P(i.e people trying to bring down the PlayStation brand all the time) will end when the PS4 comes out i.e no internet slagging off the PS4 saying its to hard to program for BLAH BLAH BLAH, YAWN, Zzzzzzzzzzzz like the PS3 has had from the internet(mainly from haters who know f**k-all about programing anyway) lol
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby toaplan » 27 Mar 2013, 15:00

billysastard wrote:well at least programmers wont have an issue learning to program ps4 since its just a 2-3 year old x86 pc.


More than half of Steam users are still using CPUs with 1 or 2 cores, according to the latest hardware survey. 2-3 years ago the ratio would have been even higher. Optimizing code for the PS4's (and X720's) 8 cores may not be so easy for less experienced developers.
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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby Metagen » 27 Mar 2013, 15:03

Barry316 wrote:
billysastard wrote:well at least programmers wont have an issue learning to program ps4 since its just a 2-3 year old x86 pc.


Dunno, the 6 programmers left making Wii U games still seem to have issues and that's basically a 12 year old Casio calculator with an Etch-a-Sketch included.

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Re: PS4 architect: 'Clearly we had some issues with PS3'

Postby drpunk » 27 Mar 2013, 16:00

Start of gen, big yourself up.

End of gen, admit you were wrong when you bigged yourself up.

I'm sure the same will happen next gen.
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