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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby Schlowbro » 01 Nov 2012, 18:32

highlanderjim wrote:crikey, so its a PC from 3 years ago?


As long as it doesn't run Windows XP then we're fine. :-P
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby schubacca » 01 Nov 2012, 18:39

I am sure that the hardware will be plenty powerful.
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby djreplay » 01 Nov 2012, 18:44

Sooner or later I would like to take advantage of the screen resolution of my tv.
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby karkify » 01 Nov 2012, 18:45

The hardware will have to be relatively recent and somewhat powerful. It won't be bleeding edge new, but anything that can run games like BF3 at 30fps+ at 1080p or whatever (just an example) I think it will be fine. Multiplat games hardly evolve graphically, and I'm sure the first party games will push the hardware to the max again.
No matter what they choose, it will be a decent leap from what we have now.
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby kirankara » 01 Nov 2012, 19:10

highlanderjim wrote:crikey, so its a PC from 3 years ago?


even assuming that's true, the overheads on consoles are much lower, and they work closer with hardware itself, heavily optimising, meaning that consoles simply dont need processing power or the amount of gpu power a pc needs
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby SavageEvil » 01 Nov 2012, 19:15

Next gen will have to be affordable else risk not selling at all, economics are definitely forcing these guys to take notice that you can't just release some stupidly expensive console and expect it to be accepted with open arms. They can only cost at the most $450 at launch if they want anyone to purchase them and that is only if the economy shifts to happier times by the time these systems launch.

Not sure if I care about 4K resolutions as I don't have one of those bloody TV's and considering it's 3 times the resolution and we have yet to see console run a reasonably designed game at 1080p@60fps. How about they aim for that first as not even 1% of the owners will even have a 4K TV to take advantage of the resolution.
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby Chris_Shanahan87 » 01 Nov 2012, 19:36

karkify wrote:The hardware will have to be relatively recent and somewhat powerful. It won't be bleeding edge new, but anything that can run games like BF3 at 30fps+ at 1080p or whatever (just an example) I think it will be fine. Multiplat games hardly evolve graphically, and I'm sure the first party games will push the hardware to the max again.
No matter what they choose, it will be a decent leap from what we have now.


60fps at 720p > 30fps at 1080p
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby lonewolf2002 » 01 Nov 2012, 19:39

"According to previous reports, PS4 will support 4K resolution displays. 4K resolution is the term used in digital cinematography to broadly describe a resolution of around 4000 horizontal pixels on a display. This is similar to 'Ultra HD', or 'Quad Full High Definition', which at 3840x2160, is four times today's full HD resolution of 1920x1080."

Don't think an A10 by itself will hit that resolution, they must be adding some GPU grunt somewhere (going by A10 specs and reviews of current models).
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby alan666 » 01 Nov 2012, 19:39

Schlowbro wrote:
highlanderjim wrote:crikey, so its a PC from 3 years ago?


As long as it doesn't run Windows XP then we're fine. :-P


It will start with Win7 & then through the constant firmware updates Sony will remove stuff taking it back to Win95 :roll:
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby pherik » 01 Nov 2012, 19:45

If the final dev kits are going to be with Devs during the summer, does that suggest the console itself will be launched towards the end of 2013?

As far as I remember, both Sony and MS tend to get their final dev kits to developers just months before the console launch.
That would be at odds with the rumours that they won't launch the PS4 until 2014.
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby pherik » 01 Nov 2012, 19:56

SavageEvil wrote:Next gen will have to be affordable else risk not selling at all, economics are definitely forcing these guys to take notice that you can't just release some stupidly expensive console and expect it to be accepted with open arms. They can only cost at the most $450 at launch if they want anyone to purchase them and that is only if the economy shifts to happier times by the time these systems launch.


How did you come up with the $450 figure?

Personally, I'd like to see consoles that are a significant jump forward form the ones we have just now, even if it costs a little more.

I'd suspect that Sony may follow Microsoft into the realm of monthly contracts - that could be a real money spinner for them. So many people see happy to pay £500+ in monthly payments over 2 years in order to have the latest and greatest mobile phones (and tablets), yet complain that a £300 console is too expensive. If MS and Sony can conquer that barrier, then early uptake of the consoles could be quite good compared to previous generations even at similar launch prices (though not compared to the PS3 - Sony can't really afford to price the PS4 as 'aspirational' this time around!)
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby hi0marc » 01 Nov 2012, 19:59

highlanderjim wrote:crikey, so its a PC from 3 years ago?

Well the PS3 is a PC from 8/9 years ago, and look at what that can do :roll:
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby robbo1337 » 01 Nov 2012, 20:15

'The dev kits are apparently based on the AMD’s A10 APU series and come with either 8GB or 16GB of RAM, as well as the Blu-ray drive already mentioned and a 256GB hard drive as standard. This is to ensure that the console will be able to run 1080p60 games in 3D."

Taken from VG247. Sounds like a SSD drive. Not gonna be that cheap. Yet.
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby kirankara » 01 Nov 2012, 20:38

robbo1337 wrote:'The dev kits are apparently based on the AMD’s A10 APU series and come with either 8GB or 16GB of RAM, as well as the Blu-ray drive already mentioned and a 256GB hard drive as standard. This is to ensure that the console will be able to run 1080p60 games in 3D."

Taken from VG247. Sounds like a SSD drive. Not gonna be that cheap. Yet.



No way that processor/gpu running 1080p/60fps/3d..know sometime who runs gtx 590 with i7 and that isn't going to guarantee you some games running 1080p with 3d at 60fps, and that is an 800 pound card with a processor worth about 200.
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Re: PS4 based on AMD's A10 APU series - report

Postby fatherofthenoo » 01 Nov 2012, 20:49

I haven't a clue what any of this means but it is great to finally start hearing some news about the other up and coming consoles for a change. Next years E3 is going to be a wowfest.
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