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The inevitability of HMV's demise makes it no less disastrous. One often marvels at the pace of change in the games industry, but not so when it comes to the sudden advances in the extinction of high street games retail.... read more

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Opinion: HMV couldn't outthink supermarkets or embrace digit

Postby beastie » 15 Jan 2013, 12:17

All shops will go this way, If you can buy it online easier, then don't expect to be able to buy it in town for much longer.

There will soon just be coffee shops, pound shops, little express supermarkets and banks left in the city centre.
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Postby Agent75 » 15 Jan 2013, 12:41

HMV is now added to the axe list. Online prices will rise further. Amazon and Shopto have got quite expensive over the last year or so, Play.com Marketplace is quite expensive also. And it's rare I find anything cheaper in supermarkets. Can't say this is good news for games and movies, as most people will just cut down. Wii U game sales is quite low and next gen games will tip £60.
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Postby illage2 » 15 Jan 2013, 12:44

I think it's simply due to online retailers like Amazon that have caused the retail outlets to decline. I feel sorry for all the staff, as they don't deserve to lose their jobs.

Next gen titles will retail for about £50 not £60.

PS1 - £20
PS2/Xbox/ Gamecube - £30
360, PS3, Wii - £40
WiiU - £50

I've noticed a £10 increase in games of the next gen.
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Postby Bambis Dad » 15 Jan 2013, 12:48

£20 for PS1 games? You never went to a car boot sale then? Dodgy John used to sell for a fiver.
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Postby Barry316 » 15 Jan 2013, 12:53

And he'd throw in a punnet of strawberries to sweeten the deal.
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Postby monkeydan19 » 15 Jan 2013, 13:01

wii games £50 not for long get them all with console for tenner on ebay in 6 months when proper next gen out
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Postby illage2 » 15 Jan 2013, 13:03

Bambis Dad wrote:£20 for PS1 games? You never went to a car boot sale then? Dodgy John used to sell for a fiver.


I used to get all my PS1 games from Cash Generator. A tenner each :D I even had about 100+ demo discs collected from Carboot sales. No joke.
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Postby Bambis Dad » 15 Jan 2013, 13:04

monkeydan19 wrote:wii games £50 not for long get them all with console for tenner on ebay in 6 months when proper next gen out

As Sony and Microsoft are still in the gen but last at best you'll get current gen machines, lol.
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Postby roland82 » 15 Jan 2013, 13:09

Tekken 1 cost me [ my mum] 50 quid.

Im sure Turok on the N64 was 70 quid at one point. New consoles always bring higher prices at first, even if they dont last.
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Postby Bambis Dad » 15 Jan 2013, 13:14

I must have led a somewhat sheltered life. I was buying a lot of N64 games on the day of release and never paid more than £40, even LoZ OoT.
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Postby mattdark » 15 Jan 2013, 13:17

It will be a shame to see them, but unfortunately they just cant match the compotition.

Their prices are among the highest around. They are second only to Game when it comes to the prices of videogames. but its harder for them to lower the prices on their stock when so much of the money needed to go towards paying the staff and the rent for the stores.

This was the big reason they couldnt compete with online retailers. The likes of amazon dont have to worry to the upkeep of a storefront, so it was easier to knock off a fiver here or there.

The biggest competition though, has to be the supermarkets. They have the ability to lower the cost of DVDs, Games and Music, and probably sell them at a loss at first to get more people in. Its easier for them though, because they can make that money back from the amount of money they get from the produce they sell.
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Postby ted1138 » 15 Jan 2013, 13:29

It's all down to Supermarkets and online retailers driving down the price of CDs, DVDs and Games. The Supermarkets don't rely on these sales to stay in business, but shops like HMV and Game do, forcing them to compete on price, and effectively, sell the stock for almost no profit at all...
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Postby richomack360 » 15 Jan 2013, 13:45

mattdark wrote:The biggest competition though, has to be the supermarkets. They have the ability to lower the cost of DVDs, Games and Music, and probably sell them at a loss at first to get more people in. Its easier for them though, because they can make that money back from the amount of money they get from the produce they sell.


Well the supermarkets can sell items at a loss - as if I was to go into Sainsburys to get a new game you can bet I would walk out there with crisps, a drink and something else - meaning the total sale would erase any possible losses incurred on one or any of the products
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Postby fonjackerjon » 15 Jan 2013, 13:47

Ok, Can you tell me how the hell HMV are supposed to embrace digital downloads? sell poxy itunes vouchers do not count!
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Postby Bambis Dad » 15 Jan 2013, 13:51

First they came for the Independents,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Independent.

Then they came for the High Street Shops,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a High Street Shop.

Then they came for the trade Online Retailers,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Online Retailer.

Then they came for me,
and it was okay as I'd been made redundant in the second stanza and could afford their prices for other goods and lived happily everafter on state benefits and doritoes and mountain dew..
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