adgr19 wrote: They removed inside xbox. I understand that Microsoft are out to make money but they seem to pissing customers off with their aggressive $ chasing lately. i don't think pissing people off gets you anywhere in the long run, and i don't think it should. What they should have done is say 'live is free if you don't mind adverts' but to give you no choice or even a say in what they do with the service you pay for is a little s**tty, no?
With windows 8 they have started the process of taking choice away from you again by slowly integrating their version of an app store. Windows 9 or 10 may only let you install games brought from it.
These things go completely against why we paid for gold membership and why we all went and installed windows 7.
Steam and psn are both better value and i don't believe xbox live is any more stable than them.
Im not disputing anything your saying, what im saying is that its not as bad as people make it out to be, i for one would be furious if the ads got in the way of my gaming and my enjoyment of Netflix or Sky or anything else i use on live, the fact is it doesnt.
Regarding windows 8, i have it, and im yet to find anything making me install games directly though the app store, the reason developers are giving off is because they will have to go through a certification process ensuring a certain amount of quality before a game can be installed through the windows 8 app store, now if they offered quality products in the first place im sure there wouldnt be an issue.
The other thing is they dont have to go through the app store, they can go via Steam, Origin or via high street with their games, Windows 8 will not in any way stop me or anyone using games in those 3 different scenarios i just mentioned. Its all bluster from developers afraid of MS getting in on their action, the reality is very different.
And regarding removing features from live, your right i forgot about that, i loved inside Xbox and the others that were removed, on a plus note they have released an IGN and Gamespot app to replace them, both of them are quite good.
As for the stability of Live, yes Steam is very stable like live, but as for the PSN, it seems to be off every other week for maintenance of some sort, but i put up with it becauase its free (and im a PS + subscriber) but if i had to pay for the whole experience i would take my money away, the same as i would do if Live was constantly down, which it is not, i can only remember once in the last year...